you should teach -- you teach that in religion class. running theme among the 2016ers that we know so far. bobby jindal has supported evolution in schools. and chris christie hedged on it. marco rubio definitely has been for it. so it is an interesting underlying early theme. >> bill: but there is a real connection between this and what we talked about at the top of the hour with increasing, overwhelming evidence about climate change and still the science deniers led by james inhoff in this case. but i'm sure rubio and santorum all fall on that oh well, some sciences say that -- but other scientists say this, you know. in the meantime, we don't do a damn thing. >> to be clear, i think if rubio is listening to the scientists on the age of the earth that may -- there's no impression you listen to the scientists on climate change. denying climate change is universally accepted in the republican party. that science is not -- doesn't have much credit there. >> bill: all right. >> bill: 18 minutes after the hour. in studio with us as a "friend